tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post116178762654293534..comments2024-03-27T17:20:17.463-04:00Comments on The Gnostic World Of Candy Minx: Conspicuous ConsumptionCandy Minxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07350752657678863378noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1162164093028709312006-10-29T18:21:00.000-05:002006-10-29T18:21:00.000-05:00Yes, Asterisk, I think Rosebud is the end of his c...Yes, Asterisk, I think Rosebud is the end of his childhood. The toy is ripped from him, he was a very playful child...and that sense of play comes into his ethics and adventure until he is slowly corrupted. Yes, I mean that although Rosebud was a toy, it represented his end of childhood, which he never was able to replace with adult love or money or success.Candy Minxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07350752657678863378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1162040806007706782006-10-28T09:06:00.000-04:002006-10-28T09:06:00.000-04:00I love this movie, but I have only watched it twic...I love this movie, but I have only watched it twice, I think. I bought the DVD recently but haven't got round to seeing it again yet. <BR/><BR/>I'm not entirely sure about what you mean by Rosebud being a time. If you mean that it represents childhood and his loss of childhood, then I'm totally with you; if something else, I'm afraid I'm going to have to see the film again and get back to you! (It's probably 12 years since I last saw it.) Are you saying, essentially, that it's a MacGuffin? Certainly, I'd agree with that, too. Since really what Roebud is is unimportant in the scheme of simply telling a story of a man known in different ways by different people.<BR/><BR/>Enjoyed your post, though: had to print it out and read it in the lounge, cos I simply didn't get time to read blogs at my desk the last few days...* (asterisk)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11969314216753450118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161912734461432912006-10-26T21:32:00.000-04:002006-10-26T21:32:00.000-04:00my favourite film for a long time. He never knew t...my favourite film for a long time. He never knew that he made a classic. I think I did not run well commercially, but was appreciated much later.raufhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14069291890495563749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161861071242565792006-10-26T07:11:00.000-04:002006-10-26T07:11:00.000-04:00Mister Anchovy: I can't really remember all of Ste...Mister Anchovy: I can't really remember all of Steppenwolf, it's been years...but did you mean Beowolf? Cause power, vanity, corruption are the moral of Beowolf. Actually, it's a classic lesson isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Diana, Yes, all of those things with clothing and trickel down design. Your retirement outfit sounds great. I always thought Katheryn Hepburn had it figured out with her men's shirts and baggy classic slacks, or Audrey Hepburn too. Look, it's not a bad thing to want to fit in, it's quite normal. I like lattes too! But I hardly ever drink them. Lattes aren't the issue it's the cost. The other day we had a meeting and it took place in Starbucks. I went and got a hot chocolate or some such thing, and it was over 6 bucks. I said to Stagg, my god, who is drinking this stuff? Really buying a home coffee steamer isn't a luxury now, it's a way to drink a cup of latte for .50 cents! The take out coffee, the public space is part of the attraction. It's not a bad thing that we want to be like our few elite, like the very few rich that run the world. Our sense of security, acceptance and community is just defined differently by our possessions and consumption than it was at other times. We now define ourselves as being subservient to people in power rather than their equals or their rivals. We copy Trump, Bush, Oprah and Jessica Simpson to show we believe in the system and economy and wish we were them.<BR/><BR/>The Cappucino Kid, you're a cup of coffee I like to drink every day, that's a good question. I wonder if it would have the same cultural importance if the title had been different, if the movie hadn't almost been censored and got all the press because of the Hearst scandal, and the directors insanely young age and flashy attitude (25yrs)? A good question. The movie is so cool for cinematography and acting though...and really the make up is stunningly good. I don't know, I wonder?Candy Minxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07350752657678863378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161852930809541232006-10-26T04:55:00.000-04:002006-10-26T04:55:00.000-04:00one question. would the film have been as big if t...one question. would the film have been as big if the name hadn't been changed?<BR/>or am i missing the point yet again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161824000078643262006-10-25T20:53:00.000-04:002006-10-25T20:53:00.000-04:00No wonder Kane was rebellious - control will do th...No wonder Kane was rebellious - control will do that to ya. <BR/><BR/>Guess we all hunger for praise & acceptance in some ways....I know in high school it sure is important to be "like everyone else." Usually the monied people. When you think about it, our consumerism makes us slaves. The models model the crazy clothes, the manufacturers alter them slightly for the slightly less wealthy, on down to Walmart level. I was going crazy trying to find some shirts for work that didn't expose the belly. But ya notice NOW the shirts are all long - so to be approved, we gotta buy more...then pretty soon that's ALL that's on the market, so we are cornered if we need a new shirt...This is also CONTROL.<BR/><BR/>When I retire I'm wearing old flannel shirts, stretchy leggings or jeans, and 15 year old birkies alternating with rubber boots cuz my feet hurt all the time. An' that's it! <BR/><BR/>Ohhhh, I have to confess to Latte Love! Not for status, jes' cuz' I LOVE that ritual in the cup, the zap of the expresso and the smoothness of the added milk...what a treat. But treat only! The crowds I run in look down on everyday latte users. <BR/><BR/>:)Gardeniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233358355888022857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161807264237859712006-10-25T16:14:00.000-04:002006-10-25T16:14:00.000-04:00Not all that different from the early 20th century...Not all that different from the early 20th century ideas of Hesse in Steppenwolf?mister anchovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14047409406840291723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161806790902292552006-10-25T16:06:00.000-04:002006-10-25T16:06:00.000-04:00Absolutely, the point being that conspicuous consu...Absolutely, the point being that conspicuous consumption has changed. Instead of it being a way of showing our power and stamina and to frighten off our rivals...or liek some tribes, showing that we are gnerous and powerful by giving away precious items to others within tribe...now it is a sign of slavery to the few elite. We can't move up the social ladder unless we fit in. When we wear a Frank Zappa t-shirt or a goth style, we are saying we belong to someone even though daddy doesn't love us and never approved we have remade the "family unit". But either way...it is a form of submission to the status of a very few at the top.<BR/><BR/>All those mothers driving vans to the Starbucks are not showing their liberation or power, they are showing their subservient status. At least goths or Dead Heads don't go broke givng away their personal power. Whereas, unresolved abandonment issues provoke families to go into debt to send their kids to posh private schools or buy the most expensive running shoes or clothes and carry cell phones.<BR/><BR/>In a family-approval-bankrupt society the rich and powerful enjoy us worshipping their rare positions by copying them.Candy Minxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07350752657678863378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161805965984222122006-10-25T15:52:00.000-04:002006-10-25T15:52:00.000-04:00When we drink a latte or drive an SUV we are not b...<I>When we drink a latte or drive an SUV we are not broadcasting our high status we are proving our submission to our dominators. </I>. That's an interesting way of putting it. Another way might be to say that we are wearing the effects of the tribe we want to join, not much different than wearing goth gear or punker gear or whatever, except that one group carries the influence and power of the ruling tribe. Or, as Frank Zappa said (haha, imagine me quoting Frank Zappa), we're all wearing uniforms.mister anchovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14047409406840291723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23226602.post-1161796938143054442006-10-25T13:22:00.000-04:002006-10-25T13:22:00.000-04:00Wow. That was a very insightful post Candy! I've...Wow. That was a very insightful post Candy! I've never seen the movie but of course, like most of us, have seen clips including the infamous "Rosebud" being whispered. I'm going to have to rent it now.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066059792352397198noreply@blogger.com