CBC News Indepth: Caledonia land claim
Stand-off for three months between Mohawks and land developers.
My opinion? Farmers should go fuck themselves and stay in the cities they built!
And the government agrees, offering compensation to the developers.
"The land was originally part of an aboriginal treaty dating back to 1841, but the members of the nearby Six Nations reserve say the land was leased to the province, not sold for development."
wikipedia offers a slightly different perspective...
Today...
Why should we protect land for hunter and gatherers?
-people living in cities cuts down on commuter time and gas.
-more residents in urban centres keeps city safer, more round the clock activity
-residents in cities create and support dynamic social and cultural diversity
-city life tends to be more tolerant of diversity, therefore more non-violent conflict resolution and rights support
-protects wilderness from development safekeeping wetlands, animals, flora
-protecting wilderness allows hunter and gatherers to make a living outside totalitarian agriculture
-protecting the economy of hunter and gatherers gives cityfolk/farmers(same thing) a resource on alternative economy and land use
-protecting hunter and gatherers allows their economy to protect their unique belief systems
-farmers can learn about land conservation from hunter-gatherers belief systems
-farmers can learn about healing and nutrition from hunter and gatherers practices
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Hi Candy!
I think you're one of the few "normal" sounding people to comment on my blog. Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm looking over your blog now, and love it so far. I am going to add you to the Link list on the Individualist Spiritualist Anarchist Barbie blog, if that is ok with you. This way I can keep up with your blog easier too... Thank you again... Nice to "meet" you as well.
xoxo
Alice
hi so i happen to just spend the better part of sunday (9pm to 7am) talking about just this subject. sometimes its funny what you retain. seems i may have acctually listened to you once or twice.
saved art. on 69 Albany (name seems to be gone from mem. too much caffine) for you from now mag.
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pook
p.s. really need acess to com. more often to keep up. Holly crap you can go on some times, so much for spending my day off outside. also do you have hard time w/ "word verification"? i do.
mom just went to Hair and Heart. she does not accept anonymous posts though so if you could let her know about my yummy drink w/ pomm liq. and gin 1 to 1 gin and pomm, 7up and sp. soda if too sweet. yummy and good hue.
Hey crazy cat lady...great to see you here. Alice, I am going to link you too. did you know I have a pinting here on blog called "Barbie Is MY Co-Pilot" so I think maybe this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
Pook, hi honey, you are so funny coming on here and posting. I am glad to maybe have been some service to you heh heh. This "farmer versus mohawk" story is very upsetting to me. I hope I gave you something to work with. Yes, I have a terrible time with word verification because of the dyslexia. I often land up trying half a dozen times before it takes. I love you. xxxooooo (for pals out there...Pook is my baby)
All right, enough with the mom...I told you not to call me that in public, heh heh JUST kidding okay YOU WOULD LOVE HATTIGRACE!!!! And I will make sure to go there right now and give her your drink recipe...for gods sake phone me I'm HOME right now!!!! ha ha ha Okay, so this is like pay back for all those times I came to your school as a goth for parent teacher meetings, right?
i have called!!! you hav to answer your phone.
this is funny.
yes left comment re parent teacher nights. my teacher called you are late.
The modern-day Mohawk, or any native group, are nothing like hunter/gatherers of old. They cannot be. We have taken their land and pushed them to the margins of our society.
I am surprised at some of your city "pros." Are cities really safer than rural areas? Non-violent conflict resolution? Really?
Hey wandering coyote, I don't mean to intrude, but where do you live? After living in cities and small towns in Canada I have found I feel pretty much the same in either, especially on a friday night. And when I lived in the bush, there were less threats from cars and people, but the bears ended up being scarier than both.
kiki
Hey Wandering Coyote, Many hunter and gatherers are making a living as they have done for a long time. Yes, Mohawk may not be right now now, but why not allow them to be able to make that decision while they still have traditions oral history of how to live as hunter gatherers? Did you know the Anasazi were farmers until horses were introduced to North America, then they returned to hunting and gathering.
Here is another example:
http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0030116
Um, I think statistics show urban centres to be safer than the suburbs or small towns. I would say Tolerance is more prevalent in cities than small tonws...and that is often a marker. At the very least, tolerance is a "quality of life" factor, no? which I think is important too. I know so many men and women who moved to cities to escape the torture and prejudice of small towns. I was one of them. Cities are a refuge for the disenfranchised, artists, homosexuals and gender discriminated.
the natives, the hunter gatherers had a clear idea of balancing the nature, they would not do anything to damage the environment. they did chop the trees but not at a massive scale.
In the early 20th century Yellowstone was declared a national park. the natives were forbidden from entering and hunting the elks bisons and other animals, to protect the elks the park rangers poisoned the wolves. It turned out to be a big mistake. After 30 years they found the entire vegetation of yellowstone disappearing as the elk popupation grew out of proportion. Suddenly they woke up and started shooting down elks in large numbers.
We call ourselves civilised and we don't realise that imposing our ideas on the natives is the arrogance of civilisation.
Very true Rauf, and something else about Yellowstone...we used to put out forest fires too. We thought that was helping the trees, until we figured out that a cone needs to reach a high high heat to turn into a seed, reforestation depends on that kind of massive forest fire. Maybe we are learning. I think wolves have been introduced to Yellowstone although still nothing like they were once. We can hope they get room and space someday...
OK, I've grew up in a town of 3500 in the middle of nowhere in BC, and as an adult lived in Victoria, Ottawa, and Vancouver. I feel safer in a small town. There was less crime and no one locked their doors (my brother, who lives in the same small town still, doens't even know where his house key is!). I often didn't feel safe at all in Ottawa after dark, and in Vancouver as well. As for tolerance, perhaps you are right. But I would argue that the intolerance is more visible in a small town because there are fewer people and if you're different you stick out more. But there are intolerant bigots in cities as well, and marginalization, and more poverty.
Kiki: I am not frightened by wildlife at all. We had bears in Rossland, and coyotes, and moose walking down the street. City people, in my experience, are clueless about wildlife and tend to be afraid of it because they're not used to it at all. Respect the wildlife and you'll be fine.
I was under the same impression Candy, I thought forest fires are to be prevented, never knew they help regenerate the forest. About 20 25 years ago I heard that Nagarhole' forest was set ablaze by the warring factions of some political party, The intention was to damage the vegetation.Today the forest is greener than before.
W.C. small town B.C. huh? I know about that. Remember Michael Moore's movie Bowling For Columbine? He went to Torotno and walked up to peoples houses, and the doors were unlocked. I think that's a Canadian thing, also our crime is lower in Canada...so more relaxed...?
I am not sure about the poverty in cities being worse...um, there are more people living outside, true, but thats not a guage of poverty...is it? I think poverty is in small towns, but maybe it's easier to ge food etc but no work in small towns...?
But all interesting stuff. I am positive crime is worse in suburbs and rural per capita...but this is all something for me to re check my sources. Tahnks Wandering Coyote.
Yes, Rauf, nature seesm to know what she is doing with forest fires. EVerywhere thought they were bad...it's the cutting down of trees in wilderness, and insenitive logging that is damaging to forests not fires. Insensitive logging rapes the ground and undergrowth etc.
candy, thanks for telling me about this. i blog about it in this post. i am intrigued by the whole hunter gatherer thing.
i got the hunter part, but what would they gather? berries and nuts and things? please enlighten me! peace - c
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